tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post111578469730379142..comments2009-09-02T16:39:07.174-04:00Comments on Runtime Log: Reflections on ComputervisionDave Delayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13462996160894645683noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-84106814910671078262008-11-06T16:08:00.000-05:002008-11-06T16:08:00.000-05:00It's funny that a previous post compares the buyou...It's funny that a previous post compares the buyout of CV by Prime to that of RSA by EMC. I worked at CV from 85 to 93 mostly on 4X and then THEDA. I left to work for a small company called Security Dynamics which grew into RSA and now owned by EMC. CV was a great place to work at back in the day. We still talk about those experiences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-49882293733489903862008-10-24T00:27:00.000-04:002008-10-24T00:27:00.000-04:00Dave,I was stunned to read your account of the PD ...Dave,<BR/><BR/>I was stunned to read your account of the PD story. Spot on! You were the visionary that got that ball rolling. On the day I gave the demos at CV... at the very last possible minute you came in... saw what I had and took a chance on it. Wow! This takes me back. If you want to chat, my email addy is stevef@whidbey.com<BR/><BR/>Cheers!<BR/>Steve FordAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-83300794784533999992008-10-23T17:02:00.000-04:002008-10-23T17:02:00.000-04:00Hey swingbozo,Obscurity yes, retired no.MalamuteMa...Hey swingbozo,<BR/><BR/>Obscurity yes, retired no.<BR/><BR/>MalamuteMan, AKA Steve Ford<BR/><BR/>PS- Norm just got remarried and moved to CAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-45420397082503100062008-10-07T09:03:00.000-04:002008-10-07T09:03:00.000-04:00I worked at Rover cars in the 1980s on CADDS4X and...I worked at Rover cars in the 1980s on CADDS4X and thought it brilliant. I migrated on to a 5 axis machining project running CV NC on the sun workstations.<BR/><BR/>Later I worked for Delcam on their duct5 product and became a software engineer working in PowerMILL.<BR/><BR/>I always liked the command language of CADDS:-<BR/><BR/>insert line x 10, IX 20Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-81988428799987121692008-06-25T07:29:00.000-04:002008-06-25T07:29:00.000-04:00Does anyone know of a forum for personal designer?...Does anyone know of a forum for personal designer? I have been using pd for about 18 yrs. and currently use rev.5 ( I don't like the latest rev. 6 style)<BR/>PD is an excellent versatile cad system and I am loathe to change to autocadd or similar.<BR/>My particular problem is that I would like to change to an up todate computer using usb ports for the plotter and digitiser but I am unable to find an I.T. engineer who can achieve this.<BR/>I have been able to use pd on a dual boot system with dos and windows XP but it does not solve the problem of upgrading to usb ports.<BR/><BR/>Regards<BR/>John RankinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-45407841561685421912008-02-21T16:56:00.000-05:002008-02-21T16:56:00.000-05:00I worked for "4D Graphics," the company that wrote...I worked for "4D Graphics," the company that wrote the original PC version of Cadds4X, and the company Ken partnered with to get what was finally branded "Personal Designer."<BR/><BR/>The PC version was also written in FORTRAN. Man, what a nightmare. The ComputerVision code was torn out of Personal Designer and it still barely exists as 4Design. If you want to remember those panic inducing DOS days before 32 bit Windows you can download it at <A HREF="http://www.4dgraphics.net" REL="nofollow">What's left of 4D Graphics.</A> I think both Steve Ford and Norm Case, the two principals of 4D Graphics, where able to retire to obscurity after the PTC takeover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-57585308124571889612008-02-02T22:20:00.000-05:002008-02-02T22:20:00.000-05:00I worked for CV Germany from 1984 to 1986 running ...I worked for CV Germany from 1984 to 1986 running their field service office in Ingolstadt. We supported their largest customer Audi and the local engineering offices who were compelled to use CV to design their car bodies. 1984 was great but once the CV CEO got nailed for insider stock trading the company started its march to hell. What a shame that a market leader for so long is now barely remembered. I did get to work with a lot of good people however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-49105529115844986052007-12-04T22:07:00.000-05:002007-12-04T22:07:00.000-05:00Fun to read this and reminisce. I worked for CV f...Fun to read this and reminisce. I worked for CV from 1986-1987, before the Prime acquisition. We were so excited then at the modelling and surfacing capabilities of CADDS4x - stuff that's easily done on a PC now. How times have changed, including the clothing and hairstyles!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-56871544605372984892007-11-12T07:23:00.000-05:002007-11-12T07:23:00.000-05:00Wow! What a trip this is. I was making comments ov...Wow! What a trip this is. I was making comments over on Lockergnome about Corporate Predatory practices and HP's name came up. Tektronix Storage Tubes, I was in CV from 1973 to 1975 when the big layoff hit. Again, I knew not Brian, but everyone "almost" knew me, 'cause I needed to fix their ASR-33 for program printouts prior to shipping!!<BR/><BR/>BobSecond Naturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10461634621453434563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-15807440717861726282007-05-15T10:03:00.000-04:002007-05-15T10:03:00.000-04:00It's so interesting to read and hear some of the c...It's so interesting to read and hear some of the comments about the old days. I was an end user of Comoputervision for Reliance Electric when it ran on Data General in 1972. I moved to Westinghouse on a more updated version, PW93/95's and then went to work for Prime. I was at Prime in the days of Medusa, Midas Plus, Primos, and whne they partnered with GM and Ford. Once Prime went bankrupt, I went to work for FEDEX, whihc was a Prime customer as well. The good old days...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-39988051571215019532007-03-13T15:42:00.000-04:002007-03-13T15:42:00.000-04:00hi, great CV reading! My first job as a PCB design...hi, great CV reading! <BR/>My first job as a PCB designer at ITT in Oslo, Norway in 1974 was also my first contact with CV and CADDS 1 (system #76!!). I soon got the job as a systems manager, and after several year at differnt CV customers, I joined CV as an Application Engineeer in 1981 at their newly opened norwegian office. I had several positions as supervisor, service manager, buisness dev. etc as the years went by, and I stayed until 1993. I remember this as a period of my life with great fun, good colleagues, and many interesting businesstrips all over Europe and US. <BR/>At this moment a couple of former colleagues I kept contact with, and myself, are planning CV-reunioning party this summer in Oslo. So far we tracked down about 30 individuals from the norwegian operations years 1980-88. I'm really looking forwad to that! <BR/>Take care, Jon Erik in NorwayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-1158845212003089552006-09-21T09:26:00.000-04:002006-09-21T09:26:00.000-04:00I was there too (4X, Port) - as first job.The ques...I was there too (4X, Port) - as first job.<BR/><BR/>The question I did not ask at the interview was - what do you use for a debugger on cadds 4X?<BR/><BR/>The stories of questionable business practices bad decisions still amaze me, and serve as examples I use today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-1155597472742406012006-08-14T19:17:00.000-04:002006-08-14T19:17:00.000-04:00Was there from 1987-1997. Lots of ups and downs, ...Was there from 1987-1997. Lots of ups and downs, lots of wild deals, lots of money. A good time overall. Looking for the next big ride! In the words of the late Jerry Garcia, "...what a long strange trips its been!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-1155062597711761302006-08-08T14:43:00.000-04:002006-08-08T14:43:00.000-04:00Wow! What powerful memories this dredged up. I was...Wow! What powerful memories this dredged up. I was a CV employee from 1982 until 1997, when PTC acquired us. I lived through the APU debacle ( CV's own VAX 11/780 equivalent), the porting of CADDS4 to Unix ( SunOS ), the takeover by Prime...what a roller coaster, but mostly I remember it all extremely fondly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-1153153646017671622006-07-17T12:27:00.000-04:002006-07-17T12:27:00.000-04:00Very nice but also very sad. I originally began my...Very nice but also very sad. I originally began my computer career with CV and later moved to Prime Computer where we competed against CV with our product - Medusa CAD/CAM. Six years later, Prime acquired CV. I remained with Prime until the leveraged buyout by J H Whitney. I left just at the beginning of the end for Prime. However, looking back I would have to say Prime lost their focus, straying into other areas with their acquisition of CV, Calma, manufacture and remarketing of SUN Microsystems workstations, joint venture with SGI, and the introduction of the Prime EXL SystemV UNIX server. So many operating systems, acquisitions, and without focus. Other businesses have followed similar paths. The most recent would be EMC with their acquisition of RSA and other non-storage array focused acquisitions. When will those Mass-based companies learn? How long will EMC continue before falling way to the fate of those before them?<BR/><BR/>D. Johnson / Scottsdale, AZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-1150294467832935092006-06-14T10:14:00.000-04:002006-06-14T10:14:00.000-04:00Great Story! I worked with CADDS3, CADDS4x & CADDS...Great Story! I worked with CADDS3, CADDS4x & CADDS5 from 1985 to 1992 @ BSHG in Germany. And a little with the personal designer. Yes, the one with that 10000$ graphics card. But I think it wasnt PD who killed CV - It was the hybrid modeling. CV should have build a real next generation product out of CADDS5.<BR/><BR/>btw - we changed from Designer VX to SUN Pizzabox - and my perspective was that the migration went well. Maybe the _pd file wasn't looking that well :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-1141846279646406552006-03-08T14:31:00.000-05:002006-03-08T14:31:00.000-05:00i was a Computervision employee for almost 12 year...i was a Computervision employee for almost 12 years. there were of course lots of good times and good people back then. the merger with Prime was a big adjustment for everyone and looking back it is easy to see the writing on the wall. the selling off of the field service division left a bad taste for everyone. i miss some of the folks i worked with and the friendships that were developed. i have been self-employed now since 1995 and am still servicing computers.<BR/>any comments or interest please email me. mjktek@bellsouth.net.<BR/>God Bless.<BR/>S.MayeauxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-1116438396821786002005-05-18T13:46:00.000-04:002005-05-18T13:46:00.000-04:00You can cannibalize you... or someone can cannibal...You can cannibalize you... or someone can cannibalize you. Which would you prefer?<BR/><BR/>Didn't they teach that at MBA school?directorbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00205733284944340787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11430279.post-1115906331328563712005-05-12T09:58:00.000-04:002005-05-12T09:58:00.000-04:00Great post Dave! Really brings back some memories...Great post Dave! Really brings back some memories. I worked on CADDS3, 4, 4x and then various flavors of CADDS on workstations. I can't remember what we called that.<BR/><BR/>CV was also my first job and a lot of fun until the Prime acquisition. Then everything went downhill fast.<BR/><BR/>CV was one of the first of the great Route 128 "technology highway" companies. It's depressing how many "youngsters" I work with today who have never heard of it.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02013809320053657442noreply@blogger.com